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>> hello, everyone. i'm cnn meteorologist karen mcginnis. we have the very latest information regarding tropical storm hurricane earl. no longer a hurricane intensity. it's now moving past cape cod. and still feeling the effects of what is a 70-mile-an-hour tropical storm. but now, the new information from the national hurricane center is that it has picked up speed. and now moving towards the northeast at about 30 miles an hour and during the morning and afternoon hours it will move through the gulf and maine and
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right around cape -- novia scotia. tropical storm earl, supporting winds of near 70 miles an hour. we'll keep you updated. "ac 360" continues right now. good evening again. thanks so much for joining us tonight. can a politician simply refuse to debate her supporters? no more debates period and wait'll you hear the reason that she took part in that one disastrous debate on wednesday. according to her it wasn't to talk to voters it was money. $1.7 million. we're keeping them honest. another politician who seems to be damaging questions and responsibility. democratic congressman eddie bernice johnson. now blaming her top staffer for a scholarship scandal. we're tracking the hurricane
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earl. it's now closing in on new england. tell you when and how badly it could effect your labor weekend. and plus andre agassi. he dominated tennis and much of his life hated almost every single moment of it. his hard-driving man and his life that he says was hoisted on him. the big "360." interview. we're keeping them honest. now she's saying that her discombo discombo discombobulated debate is her last. she's refused to participate in any debates. she won't do it she tells the paper. what about her obligation to the voters and because she's the sitting governor, her obligation to the people of arizona, well, we'll talk about that shortly but first let's take a look at
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what happened in the one debate she did anticipate in and it was wednesday night, you've probably seen her opening statement which candidates traditionally practice over and over, it was pretty much a complete meltdown. >> it's great to be here with larry, barry and terry and thank you all for watching us tonight. i have, uh, done so much and i just cannot believe that we have changed everything since i have become your governor in the last 600 days. arizona has been brought back from its abyss. we have cut the budget. we have balanced the budget and we are moving forward. we have done everything that we could possibly do. we have, uh, did what was right for arizona. i will tell you that i have
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really done the best that anyone could do. we've pushed hard against the federal government. filed suit against the obama health care and we have passed senate bill, 1070. and we will continue to do what's right for arizona. i ask for your vote. thank you. >> painful to watch, no doubt about it. you might say, everyone has a brain freeze every now and then. what the governor went on to do later during the debate and especially afterwards with reporters was almost as embarrassing. we're seeing this tactic more and more used by candidates. i want to show you what happened later on during that same debate. the governor's chief of opponent attorney general terry goddard repeatedly called upon the governor to retract a false statement she made in june in which she said arizona law enforcement have found decapitated bodies in the desert. watch. >> but what is hurting us right now, economically, our false statements made by jan brewer. about how arizona has become so violent, that we are a place of fear, that we have beheadings in the desert.
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those are false statements, they cause people to think that arizona is a dangerous place and they don't come here and they don't invest here because our governor has said such negative things about our state. and, jan, i call upon you today to say that there are no beheadings, that was a false statement and it needs to be cleared up right now. >> and, you know, terry, i will call you out. i think that you ought to renounce your support and endorsement of the unions. >> now the governor didn't answer the question there, instead tried to turn the question on goddard, it's a debate tactic. look what happened immediately after the debate when the governor was confronted by the same questions by a group of reporters. >> why wouldn't you recant the comment you made earlier about the beheadings in the desert? >> seriously. that is a series question, governor. >> this was an interesting night. >> please answer the question about the headless bodies. why won't you recant that? do you still believe that? come on, governor. >> okay, thank you, all. >> oh! >> she totally ignores their
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questions and just tries to give her prepared talking points and walks out. no law enforcement agencies have reported finding decapitated people in the u.s., in mexico, absolutely. not in america. the governor said she never actually said that decapitated bodies were found in arizona. i never said arizona, she insisted. keeping them honest, first the beheadings on the news. on fox news. >> which beheadings in arizona are you referring to? >> uor law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert either buried or just lying out there that have been beheaded. >> all right. she didn't actually say the word arizona but she didn't say the anchor was wrong when he said arizona and she was talking about american law enforcement finding beheaded people in the desert. sounds like she was talking about arizona. that wasn't the first time she'd raise the issue. sure enough, brewer talked about beheadings, admitted to the associated press she misspoke and went on to say, let me be clear on concern about the border region, because it
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continues to be repeated in mexico there's a lot of violence going on and we don't want that going in to arizona. so now the governor won't take part in any debates. it remains to be seen if she will refuse to answer any questions and simply give out prepared statements like she did on wednesday. joining us is a political columnist from debate.com. it seems like the way she's dealing with embarrassing answers is to stop taking questions at all. >> that's the strategy. the gamble she's taking here basically is look, it's labor day now. two months until the election. she's 20 points ahead in the latest poll. arizona is a republican friendly state that will be particularly friendly because of the national climate. she's basically gambling that the damage she'll get from the free media attention, segments like this tonight in arizona and nationally over the next two months will be offset by two things. one, the national climate which will make voters inclined to vote for republicans just because they don't want to vote for democrats. two, the climate in arizona on the issue of immigration. >> she's popular on that issue. >> right. >> so why try to answer
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questions that will just get her in trouble? >> right. you're betting on no matter how incompetent she seems, one thing besides this that every arizonan knows about her, she's the governor who signed the immigration law. if it's a huge issue to you in arizona and it is a big issue to the big chunk of the electorate, that may offset any concerns they have about her temperament. it's a big gamble, though. that's a lot of time for damage to set in. you know, there's a famous story of 1990 when a guy name paul wellstone from arizona, one of the biggest upsets of the year. he won because his opponent ducked debates, very clever ad, trying to track his opponent down, couldn't find him in arizona, kind find anyone to debate and a popular revolt. >> but there is also such antimedia sentiment right now, particularly among, you know, conservatives and she could use that to her advantage. she could say, look, all the -- she has been. >> right. >> all the media is talking about is beheadings, beheadings, beheadings.
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she could start to look like a victim of an overzealous media, frankly also being used by this democrat in texas. it's the same strategy by representative johnson who's now saying on the scholarship scandal, she said i was trying to create a scandal, now accusing "the dallas morning news" reporter who broke it of having a personal agenda. >> the base of support for every politician always believes that the media is out to get that politician. george w. bush's supporters thought they were out to get him. barack obama's supporters think it's out to get him. jan brewer's base will absolutely respond that way. the question is, you know, in every election there's 10%, 15% of the electorate that you can call swing voter, who literally jump from one party to the other. what is going to be more important to them in arizona this fall? their inclination to vote against democrats and their views on the immigration issue? if that's more important, brewer gets their votes.
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if the issues about her temperament, personality and competence, if that becomes more important, she loses those votes and only then can the democrat win. >> she wasn't even supposed to win her primary months and months ago. >> right. it's because of this issue. >> because of the immigration issue? >> right. you talk about how the base responds, the media is out to get her. the base of the republican party had no particular affection for jan brewer. she was probably going to lose her primary. she signed this bill. she became an instant hero to them. then with the media, basically, in arizona and nationally saying what a draconian bill this was, that sort of cemented what you were saying. not only do we like her for signing this but we like her for sticking up to the media. they're calling her these names, they're calling us these names. >> we'll see what her opponent, if he tries to use this debate performance against her and also if she continues to stonewall reporters on questions. steve kornacki, appreciate it. thanks so much from salon. keeping them honest, she said she was unaware of rules on scholarship, then she said they were unclear, then blamed a staffer. the latest from congresswoman
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eddie bernice johnson. and the reporter who broke the story. we'll talk with him with some new information. the 911 tapes when the discovery gunman was holding hostages. they were just released tonight and, as expected, they are chilling. >> i am almost directly behind the suspect, behind a wall. i have visual on his apparatus. i am losing battery on my portable. if somebody else comes in via the garden there will be a security officer standing by to walk you where i am. >> hey, vega, he's looking at you to see where you're going.
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keeping them honest tonight, nine-term congresswoman embroiled in a scandal over scholarships that she awarded to family members and family members of a staffer. her name is congresswoman bernice johnson. she's also the former head of the congressional black caucus. you'll hear the interview we did with her last night in a moment. she tries several explanations, some might say excuses, before ultimately saying the responsibility for the scholarship problems lay with her top aide. this week, she said she repaid $31,000 in scholarship money to the congressional black caucus foundation. i just want to recap how this all came to be in case you're not following it. according to "the dallas morning news," she gave out 23 scholarships over five years to two relatives, two of her grandchildren and two great nephews and also gave money to children of a top staffer. that's more than a third of all
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scholarships she awarded during that period. you don't even have to see the rules of the cbc foundation to know this is completely inappropriate. but we checked anyway. kids are eligible for these scholarships if they have a 2.5 grade point average, letters of recommendation, write an esaye, submit an application, be a member of the school district of the member of the cbc. and they cannot be a relative of anyone affiliated with the congressional black caucus. the kids all signed it, promising they weren't related to anyone with the congressional black caucus. not only did the congresswoman violate the rule of the cbc of awarding her own relatives but according to "the dallas morning news," none of these kids went to schools in her district. keeping them honest, we wanted to know how someone, anyone, could be unaware of or confused by such clear-cut rules or basic ethics. i spoke to representative johnson. >> thanks for joining us. you said you didn't know the rules for this scholarship and didn't know that you couldn't
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give the money to your grandson and other relatives of yours and a member of your staff. how is that possible, that you didn't know that not only was this against the rules of the scholarship, but simply unethical? >> well, let me just say this. i was not aware of the rules. the rules have been very ambiguous. there were some rules that come out last year, but, you know, i have acknowledged i made a mistake. i've tried to make everything wholed. i have paid all the money out of my personal funds. and i'm ready to move on. >> you say the rules were ambiguous prior to last year and that you didn't know what the rules were. we found the 2008 scholarship application, and on it, it says, quote, employees and/or relatives of cbc members, cbc spouses, the cbc foundation, the board of directors are ineligible for the scholarship program. we also went back and found the 2006 guidelines from four years ago and it says the exact same thing, employees and/or relatives of cbc members, cbc spouses, cbc foundation board of directors are ineligible for the
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scholarship program. that seems not ambiguous. >> i didn't realize they were even in print, as i indicated. i have no reason not to tell the truth. i did not know they were in print. >> you say you didn't know it was in print but clearly members of your staff knew that those were printed in the rules, because when your grandsons and grandnephews and the members of -- the family members of your staff who got this money for several years in a row, every time they sent in an application, they had to promise that they weren't a relative of you or anyone connected with the cbc. so, people on your staff -- >> i admit -- i admit that i made a mistake. i did not realize that. >> no, no, no, but the point is that people on your staff knew the rules. so, have you looked into who on your staff knew the rules? >> anderson, i have acknowledged that i was negligent. i acknowledged that i made a mistake. when it was called to my attention, i tried to correct it. i know you want to make a scandal out of this and i -- but i can't help you. all i can do is tell you the
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truth. >> well, i think you've done enough in terms of making a scandal. i'm trying to find out how it happened. you say you take responsibility. i'm asking specifically who on your staff reviewed these applications because whoever did this saw that these kids were promising that they weren't your relatives. what? >> my chief of staff had the responsibility. i can't tell you always did, because, to be quite honest with you, i work pretty hard. we have a lot to do and it really has not gotten all of my attention, i regret to say. it's a minor part of what we do on a daily basis. >> it does seem though to -- >> and i have indicated to you that i was negligent. i made a mistake. i have tried to right it and that's all i can do. >> because it does seem to scream credibility to say that you, as a public official, didn't understand that it just ethically -- whether or not you read the rules that ethically there would be a problem with giving money to your grandsons
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for several years when there are other kids out there who could have gotten that money. >> other kids? >> who weren't, by the way -- your grandkids weren't even living in your district or going to school in your district. >> how do you want me to answer that? i made a mistake. >> as a public official, how do you know that that's not ethically right? >> say what? >> as a public official who has been in congress for a long time, how do you know that that is not ethically right? whether or not you've read the rules but basic ethics. >> you're talking about the last three or four years. >> i'm talking about five years that you've been doing this that we know about. >> well, the only thing i can tell you is what i have said. i will keep repeating it. i've made a mistake. >> you never heard that ethical ly there might be a problem with awarding money? >> i did not hear it, no. >> never occurred to you? no member of your staff ever over the course of five years said it to you? >> i didn't think about it that much, you know, because i'm trying to make sure it doesn't -- i know it won't happen again. i'm initiating a new committee in place. i'm the last one that they send these things to and usually they
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go right to my chief of staff. i have not dwelled on trying to figure out a way to give my grandchildren $1,000 a year. i have not done that. i have a lot of things to do and i'm not saying that i didn't do right by not dwelling on it, but this is just one scholarship out of hundreds of scholarships that are offered to kids that i steered them to within my district. >> okay. did you or any member of your staff tell your grandsons, your grandnephews or the children of the other member of your staff to lie on the forms? >> no. i have had no conversation about lying on anything. >> so they just lied on their own? >> on that form or any or form. >> did they just lie on their own or were they coached by members of your staff? >> i don't consider them having lied. >> well, they said they weren't your relatives. >> they signed those forms. >> i don't know that they've even sign seen those forms. they've got essays.
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>> they've signed those forms. it's part of the application process. >> you know more than i do, anderson. >> you don't know about this at all? >> i don't have the forms. the records -- the records are missing from my office. >> the records are missing from your office? >> yes. we've looked for them. they're not there and -- >> but the congressional black caucus foundation has -- >> trying to correct the mistake. >> right. the congressional black caucus foundation, has told us -- we had them on the other night, they told us, that each of your relatives said they were not relative on the form. they signed off that everything was true on the application. >> i'm sorry that happened. i'm not even aware of it and i know that my grandkids didn't do this intentionally. i don't even know if they've seen the forms because i hadn't seen the forms until this year. >> well, they signed the forms. >> let me assure you that i have repaid all of the money. i'm not blaming anybody but myself. i'm taking full responsibility. and i'm going to move forward. >> well, representative johnson, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you very much.
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>> congresswoman johnson's take on the scandal. joining me now is todd gillman of "the dallas morning news," who broke this story and has new developments. todd, thanks so much for being with us. todd, what did you think of that interview? that happened last night. what did you make of it? >> you got a lot of answers out of her. and you asked a lot of really terrific questions. she changed her story substantially last night. it was the first time she had ever said that it was the responsibility of her chief of staff to review these applications and enforce the rules. we had no idea that these records were lost. the fact that she says that she did not coach and no one coached her, her relatives to lie on these forms was very interesting. it really strains credibility for a lot of people that nobody had any idea, that she had no idea that there were such rules in place. in 2005, the very first year she awarded scholarships to some of her relatives, she was a member
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of the congressional black caucus foundation board. and there's not a major philanthropic organization that doesn't have rules against self dealing. >> even if she didn't know the rules of this particular scholarship, which again strains credibility, anybody in public office, you know that giving things, money to your relative who doesn't even live in the district, that's got to raise questions. if it doesn't raise questions for her, which i find impossible to believe for a person sitting in congress for nine terms, it's got to raise questions for people on her staff. this didn't just happen once. it happened year after year after year. there would have to be a big turnover of her staff and they knew people had to come in and say, wait a minute. we're giving money to her grandkids? >> i suppose you could argue that once the mistake was made in 2005, it might have been easier to make the same mistake
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year after year after year. you're also touching on an issue that has disturbed a lot of voters and a lot of our readers in the dallas area, which is there is a distinction between what you can get away with, technically, and what you ought to do. and that is a question of ethics. >> you are still digging on this story. as i said, "the dallas morning news" has done remarkable work on this. you found other scholarships improperly awarded to representative johnson to others who weren't in her district. they weren't relatives but in her district. but now also others, it seems, have come forward, saying they have been trying to contact johnson's office about scholarships but were never told about these scholarships. it seems unclear, at least to me, how she ever really informed people in her district or if she did inform schools in her district about the scholarships or simply used them for her relatives and others who, one way or another, came into her orbit. >> she definitely did get the word out to some degree. we canvassed many high schools and many high school counselors in her congressional district. some were aware of the scholarship, some were not aware of the scholarship.
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we spoke with a number of the recipients or parents who actually received the scholarship who were not among her relatives, who were eligible for this and they found out about it typically by going through guidance counselors or doing their own sort of scholarship search to go to college and find financial aid. >> that's good to know. >> what you're referring to, we did uncover, in reviewing the 60 or so scholarships she has awarded in the past five years under the black caucus foundation program, we found another five students who lived outside of her congressional district, who had applied. and this actually, in some way, supports her story, which is that she did not consider the residency requirement to be a hard and fast requirement. she felt that it was a goal, that it was a guideline, but it was not a must kind of thing. these students, as far as we can tell, none of the other students were related. there was no conflict of interest, per se, but they
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didn't live and so they weren't eligible. but many of the students that she did help were scholar athletes, outstanding academically and deserve scholarships, they just weren't eligible because they didn't live or go to school in her district. >> we're out of time. i have to ask you very briefly, she's using this tactic saying -- she's saying i'm trying to create a scandal. frankly, i think she did -- she created this thing and she is saying you have a vendetta against her that you're ideologically motivated and, that, therefore, your report something biased. you're reporting facts on what she has done. tell the story of the first time you reported on her and the column you wrote. >> well, i suppose there's a little bit of bad blood going back, in her mind perhaps. i wrote a story when i became a local political columnist from dallas. i found out that she was going to do a local public television show where she would take questions from voters. i went to cover it, thinking it was an ordinary congressman interaction with voters. nobody showed up except for her
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staff who then proceeded to act the part of ordinary citizens in her district, who were posing questions, some of them even called in. her press secretary called in, pretending to be just a regular voter and i called her on it. so, this was a rather embarrassing -- the headline was something like congresswoman's tv show fills an hour, but it's no "60 minutes." that was about 15 years ago. if she still remembers it, i imagine that's us getting off on the wrong foot. but the allegation that we have a vendetta, disgruntled ex-employee spread this about her and that's why this all came about, it's like saying people were spreading a vicious truth about her. there's nothing untrue that whoever the tipster was and whatever we put in the paper, it's all true. that's why she paid back the $31,000. >> you're doing your job, uncovering facts. todd gilman, i appreciate it. we appreciate the reporting. we'll talk to you again. thank you. >> great to be here. the latest on hurricane earl and new 911 tapes released from the discovery channel hostage crisis. the drama inside and outside the building.
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hello, everyone, i'm cnn meteorologist karen mcginnis. we're giving you the very latest and live information in regards to tropical storm earl. at the top of the hour, we had
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an update from the national hurricane center and it looks like tropical storm earl has come the closest that it's going to come to the coastal sections of mats mass. it's been within about 80 to 90 miles. it is still lashing the coast right around the cape cod area, also the islands. one of the highest wind gusts' report in the past hour is about 40 miles an hour. but there's still lots of debris, still lots of water, heavy rainfall has been reported. probably going to be some power outages here but this system is moving very quickly off toward happens the northeast. now has picked up speed. to about 30 miles an hour. so its progression is to the northeast at 30 miles an hour, and it looks like by saturday morning, it's going to be hovering right around this halifax and cape saybel area and nova scotia, and also near the gulf of maine. so in the coastal areas right around maine, we'll see some gusty winds, but the bier
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eastern seaboard from right about north carolina up the coast towards new england, you can expect those rip currents, maybe some breezy conditions, but i think that for this long holiday weekend, we're looking at some fairly nice weather conditions. all right, let's go ahead and show you what is happening as far as where that rainfall is located. on the order of two to four inches of rain, likely, in a lot theof these coastal regions, here is nantucket, here is martha's vineyard. here is the cape cod area, there you can see some of those ra rainbands coming off of earl and central sections of maine seeing mostly light to moderate rainfall right now. but as i've mentioned it's moving very quickly, but earl has really had a very long live and yesterday when it was pounding the coast of north carolina, no fatalities, we just had some, mostly minor damage reported to some of the coastal
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areas, some of the bay area islands. on the order of 1 to 4 inch frescape hatteras to mantillo to kill devil hills and we did see some wind gusts approach those hurricane intensity winds. when earl was a category 2 hurricane. we'll keep you updated, another update coming up at the to the hour. i'm karen mcginnis, "ac 360" continues right now. u.s. open in new york. we've found this on break.com. three fans arguing, apparently, over one man's foul mouth. the argument escalated into a brawl that actually stopped the match. all three were escorted out of the stadium. the final score, anderson, not love-love. >> yeah. i watched this earlier. it was disturbing to see. the guy seemed like kind of a jerk, just talking a lot. >> out of control. >> i hate it when people talk at the games or movies. it drives me nuts. anyway, i digress. tom, thank you.
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talking about andre agassi what you don't about the tennis legend, the secrets he kept for years and why he says he hated the sport for years, the sport that made him famous. big 360 interview ahead. great news! for people with copd, including chronic bronchitis, emphysema, or both, advair helps significantly improve lung function. while nothing can reverse copd, advair is different from most other copd medications because it contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator, working together to help you breathe better. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. i had fun today, grandpa. you and me both. if copd is still making it hard to breathe, ask your doctor if including advair will help improve your lung function for better breathing.
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tonight's big "360" interview, andre agassi. with a u.s. open now under way it's easy to see the enormous impact the champion's had on the sport. the game made him rich, made him a household name but at the same time for a long time left him very unhappy. in his brutally honest autobiography "open," he reveals what was a lie. image masked everything back then. i spoke to agassi earlier. one of the things i was struck by in the book was just the loneliness that you experienced, especially as a child and through the teenage years, playing -- basically being forced to play tennis. >> yeah, it was definitely a life i didn't choose. you have to be very clear about
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that. my father sort of impressed upon all of his children that that's what we're going to do and that's how we're going to have the quickest road to the american dream. >> what comes across in the book is clearly there were a lot of times and a lot of years that you just hated it. >> for sure. i always say i went from not a love/hate. it wasn't a hate/love. i didn't learn to love -- >> did you hate it from the -- at 7 you started -- your dad started you playing? >> i started playing as soon as i was in diapers playing tennis. a ping pong racket was taped to my hand. >> literally taped it to your hand? >> literally taped it to my hand. do you really hate tennis? i think you misdirect it and you hate what tennis does to your family. i think you hate what tennis makes you feel. >> what did it make you feel as a kid? >> winning or losing, practicing well or not changed the mood in our house. my dad was convinced we should all be champions. i was the last, the baby of four. it fell on my shoulders and i had the most talent in the house. i sort of internalized as i watched the relationship between my father and watched the
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relationship between my family change over the years. it was, for me, the only way to make it right was to succeed at this. i used to be introduced as the future number one tennis player in the world. >> that's how he would introduce you to people? >> that's how he would introduce me to people. the truth is, when you're 7 years old, things are bigger than life. i write this book in first person. i'm talking about what a 7-year-old feels when they feel like their life is on the line. their family, dinner at the dinner table, or everybody eating separately because today was a good day or not a bad day. >> if it was a bad day, people would eat separately? if you had a bad practice, it would ruin the day? >> at least from my mind, at least what i was hoping for. not that my father was abusive, but just phenomenally intense. so when you lost or weren't at your best, it ate at him. he was a perfectionist. that means we're getting up in the morning extra early, we're doing this, we're doing that, which means we're going to bed earlier, which means doing homework in less of a priority. >> you talked about the school you went to as a kid, the nick bollettieri tennis school, i think it's called. it sounds like "lord of the
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flies," incredibly unsupervised where you were living and it's very much sink or swim. dog eat dog. >> there's no question. you eat what you kill. you raise each other -- >> you eat what you kill? >> you eat what you kill. >> is that the slogan of the school? >> at the time -- i'm writing it as a felt abandoned 13-year-old. it's not where it stands now or what this academy is. for me being there, people knew where we were at all times of the day. the truth is, you're raising each other as teenagers and you stick some teenagers together, i refer to as "lord of the flies" of the forehands. >> was there a fantasy you had of getting out? at that age? >> yeah, i did. i had fantasies of quitting, of running, of actually succeeding. i did it tortured and i did it rebelling at the same time. i did it painting my hair, putting on mohawks, piercing my body and just anything i could, drinking jack daniels. >> you see yourself as a pro with the long hair and the denim pants and shorts, what do you
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see? >> i see somebody struggling for identity, struggling to understand themselves. i see somebody exploring who they are. i was always treated as self-expression, when, really, it was my exploration. i didn't know who i was. >> did your dad read this book? >> no. >> he didn't? >> no. and i talked to him about it, because he said to me straight-up, he was an immigrant from iran. he said to me straight out what the hell do i need to read the book for? i was there, i was there. i said, yeah, dad, but you're hearing things about it and that bothers me because i describe you an honest, loving portrayal of you. >> it's a complex portrayal. >> right. >> it's not something you're going to see on a tv show in a headline. >> exactly. he's seeing all these sensationalized bits and i'm saying to him, are you okay with that, dad?
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he said if i had to do this all over again, i would do the same exact thing except it wouldn't be tennis. i wouldn't let you play tennis. it would be golf or baseball. so i said to him, why golf or baseball? because you can play longer and you can make more money. and i said, you know what? god bless you, man. god bless you. he was clear then. he's clear now and we should all be so lucky to know ourselves so well that we can rationalize other things. for my father, he knows where he stands. >> but, i mean, doesn't that -- a, to put the effort into something you spent three years working on, it's got to hurt to not have -- i wrote a book and my mom was the first person to read it, you know, and said nothing but nice things about it, which is kind of what you want to hear from your parent, yeah? >> you do. there are a lot of things i would have probably wanted with that. but at the same time there comes a time in your life when you stop wanting and you start wanting to understand. >> right. >> and i spent a lot of time understanding. >> the paperback for his book is now out. my big 360 interview with andre agassi continues. confessions off the court and more of the secrets he kept from his fans. with capital one's venture card,
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we're back with more of our conversation with andre agassi, the tennis great won 60 titles
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and won tens of millions of dollars. he's played the sport since he was 16 years old and for a lifetime he just hated it. he said it was a life imposed on him, just one of the fascinating details of his auto biography "open" out now in paperback. here is part two of the 360 interview with andre agassi. i want to show our viewers, very quickly, there was a shot just recently, roger federer, made an amazing shot. i want to show that to our viewers and then show a shot you made. >> between the legs. he does it again! he does it again, everybody. hello! >> 1995, andre agassi. >> from 1995. >> that was a better shot. >> actually, had a breeze on my back. this was actually an easier shot.
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he didn't think i could generate that kind of pace. roger federer has been lucky the last ten years. i don't believe that. >> how can you be so good at something that you hated? i mean, when you hate something every day, day in, day out, most people, it affects the way they perform. >> it does. and i could have been better, there's no question about it. >> but you were a great tennis player. you were able to, you know -- you were far and above the vast majority of people playing tennis. >> but i didn't really succeed until i did take that ownership. i won more grand slams after the age of 29 than i did before. i think what i would say to the everyday person, the person that hates what they do, one of the things you take away from this book, your life may not be -- you may find yourself in the life that you're in, but you can find reasons for why you connect to it and how you connect to it. >> a lot of people are trapped in jobs that they hate. >> yeah. >> so your recommendation to people who are doing something they hate is what, and feel trapped in it? >> to sum up what somebody's
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life experience is, is hard to do. you can't give broad platitudes about how to handle your life. what i can do is share with you what i did with mine. >> do you watch tennis now? >> i love watching tennis. i actually love it because i'm not attached to the dramas of it, you know. and i have this real appreciation for what it takes. and guys are just better now. you know, you sit there and watch athleticism and watch what they're doing and marvel at their journey. you see somebody young, see so much journey and at the same time you don't envy it. i have no desire to relive it. >> there was obviously a lot of attention it a tiny portion, i think a page or two in your book, but experimenting with crystal meth at one point in your life. when you see athletes now and all the accusations of doping, can you be a professional athlete now and not be using something? >> well, if you're talking -- let's make -- separate the categories here. >> obviously what you were doing was completely different.
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>> there's performance-enhancing drugs and then there's just recreational drugs that destroy who you are. >> right. crystal meth is something obviously that an athlete would not use to enhance. >> every sport needs to step up and be accountable, any industry in life, any business in life and any possible opportunity in life you'll have a lot of people trying to take short cuts, a lot of people cheating. you can't control what people do. what you can control is your governing body. one thing i've been very impressed with over the years, including when i tested positive for crystal meth, recreational performance inhibitor is a fact that our sport has pushed to be on the cutting edge of that. >> you built yourself a life beyond just playing the game. >> i built myself something that tennis facilitated, a school that started to educate children and give them choices in their own life. i raised the awareness and money necessary to educate these kids. i felt a lack of education in my own life. i was a ninth-grade dropout. with education comes choices, comes options. >> your school is in las vegas. how many kids go to your school? >> it's a k through 12 public charter school.
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we have 653 kids this year. we probably have the capacity of -- >> free tuition for them? >> it's a free education for them. my goal is to give resources, be accountable with the resources and my goal was to take that, give it to those children that society says we should write off, that don't have a chance. we've had two graduating classes. i've been doing this 12 or 13 years and every single one of them are off to college. and i'm really proud of that. through most of the last part of my career, that's one of the things i was fighting for. >> the book is fascinating. "open" i'm reading now. thanks so much for coming. >> it was a pleasure, anderson. thank you. up next, killer water. first came the massive flooding. now survivors are dealing with a second wave of life-threatening illness. dr. sanjay gupta's 360 dispatch from pakistan, coming up.
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in pakistan, the humanitarian disaster from the devastating floods shows no sign of easing. tonight at least 17 million have been effected by the catastrophe. hundreds of thousands have been left homeless and the threat from water-born disease is growing. dr. sanjay gupta has been in the flood zone, reporting on the massive tragedy.
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here is tonight's report. >> electrolytes -- >> reporter: faisal is now giving something millioning across pakistan cannot. medical care. it's amazing, because up until a couple of days ago, his life looked like this. then he got sick. very sick. a parent's love for their son took over. knowing he would die, they took a gamble, left everything they had behind and just started moving, somewhere, anywhere. we've probably never seen them lined like this before but this is a line for people waiting to get into the hospital. you see garbage all around the place. they stay here, all day long, waiting. a lot of people have infectious diseases that are associated with drinking contaminated water. this is a diarrheal treatment center specifically for children. he finally made it inside. your town is completely covered
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in water? he has been sick for some time. he was saying he was sick before the flood and just became much worse during the flooding. 3 years old, weighs just 10 pounds. he is so small. for compare son, i have a 3-year-old daughter. she weighs closer to 30 pounds. he is so fragile. young children have weaker immune systems. they become more easily dehydrated. like millions of people around the country, he didn't have a choice when he got thirsty. killer water or none at all. imagine drinking that. i have covered so many natural disasters. there's always fear of a second wave of disease. but access to clean water helped control that risk after the haiti quake. in pakistan, though, the second wave, it's already here. it's so hard to see these little kids so sick on these dusty, dirty tables, ivs hanging. this baby is so small all you
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see is her little foot hanging out with an iv, again. another child here, and these children are sick. this is a diarrheal treatment center to take care of them. some of these kids have come from a flood but some of them are just citizens of pakistan dealing with these issues on a pretty regular basis. killer water. just consider the impact. already a million people with crippling diarrhea. and respiratory infections. malaria, 65,000 cases and the world health organization projecting hundreds of thousands of patients with cholera, dysentery and typhoid. pakistan could literally be held hostage by killer water, affecting pakistan's next generation like this little 3-year-old. check things to see how dehydrated they are. push on the tips of their fingers and blood doesn't really come back very quickly. so dehydrated. he has a very weak pulse as
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well. his poor little mouth is so dry. but he's in the right place. he's one of the lucky ones. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, karachi, pakistan. >> that's our report tonight. thanks for watching. have a safe holiday weekend. see you back monday, labor day. see you then. ( revving, siren blares )
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